Wednesday, June 9, 2010

Why I Recommend the UNT Midwives

I am doing something quite different for this post. Instead of picking a topic, I've chosen a group of local midwives to write about. I am continuously sending natural birthing couples their way and I decided to make a post out of it. If you do not live in the Ft. Worth area, I suggest you use this standard in finding a similar type group in your area. I have nothing to gain by promoting this group, by the way. Simply giving information on a group of midwives who are working hard to provide Mother-Friendly care.

If you read my blog regularly, you know how I feel about homebirth. About 25% of the couples that take my class do give birth outside of the hospital. But that leaves 75% in the hospital. That is alright. I understand, having had 2 hospital births before my two homebirths, why couples want to birth in the hospital. The hospitals, however, are not all created equal.

Let me tell you, in a nutshell, why I am singling the UNT Midwives out for this post. They are all CNMs, or Certified Nurse Midwives, and there are five in the group. To be perfectly honest, some are more medically minded than others, as in any group.

There are three reasons I choose this group over the other CNM groups in the area:

1) They are doing water birth at the hospital. Even if you do not think that you want to have a water birth, the fact that you have this option is huge. It's all about options, really. They are not telling you, like the majority of the other hospitals, that they want you chained to a monitor in the bed. Water birth, or at least laboring in water (often called "a midwife's epidural") is a lovely option for moms and babies, and it's wonderful that it has become an option in a hospital setting.

2) They give you the full 14 days "over" your "due date" before they start talking induction. I have decided in my seven years of teaching that the majority of women truly believe that this won't happen to them. "Going 'overdue' and long labors are things that happen to other women, not to me." OK, it's not said outloud or sometimes even consciously, but it's real. So many women are not prepared for this possibility at the end of pregnancy. So much can happen in those extra days that the UNT midwives are willing to give you. A lot of other groups and/or hospitals have a 7-10 day rule. Me no likey.

3) They are VBAC friendly and so is the doctor that backs them.
Again, huge. Even if you have never had a c-section and are not having a VBAC, this philosophy, mindset, and belief is important to all pregnant women. No one wants to have a doctor who has a no-VBAC policy. He or she is preoccupied with legal issues and does not believe in the inherent safety of birth. They have a what-if mindset. A woman with a doctor like that will have a c-section. Also, their back-up doctors believe in their midwives. There are other local CNMs that are not "allowed" by their back-up doctors to do VBACs. Huge. This might seem like a big who-cares, but it's not. It speaks volumes about what is going on in their hospitals.

Ultimately, you do not have to fight to have a natural birth. As long as you do not have drugs, you will have intermittent monitoring, allowing you the freedom to walk or be in the water. You will be encouraged to eat and drink. You will have very limited vaginal exams. Other hospitals require an IV, continuous fetal monitoring, no walking if your water has broken, and vaginal exams every two hours. These "policies" contribute to the high c-section rates.

I should mention that not every experience at Harris has been great. I have had a handful of couples birth there where I was disappointed in how things were handled. Overall, however, these instances have been few and far between. I also believe that they are working extra hard to lower their rates of intervention, including c-sections. Bottom line: if you are birthing in a hospital in the Ft. Worth area, I am most comfortable with how the UNT Midwives do things.

I had a couple give birth with the UNT midwives this past weekend and I would just briefly like to share why they did not have a c-section. I believe that just about any other hospital in the area, she'd be recovering from surgery this week.

This mom had been having some strong contractions about 7-8 minutes apart for about 4 days. She had had a difficult time sleeping and was exhausted by the time she showed up at the hospital Saturday morning. She had some Demerol to help her sleep and by late afternoon without a whole lot of dilation, she had an epidural. Eventually, she had pitocin to pick things up, but the baby didn't like that so much. Instead of doing a c-section -- as just about any care provider around would have done, calling it fetal distress and fearing a lawsuit -- the midwife turned off the pitocin and told this mom to go back to sleep. They'd try again later.

Eventually, the epidural wore off, after the mom had gotten in some good sleep, and she was able to squat her baby out! Her midwife believed in her ability to do have a vaginal birth. Except for exhaustion, mom was fine and baby was fine. She recognized what was working for them and what wasn't.

I also must add, when her doula showed up at the hospital, all the lights were on, monitors beeping loudly, and family all standing around watching this laboring woman. Her wise doula created an atmosphere of quietness, dim lighting, head massage, snuggle time with the hubby, and things moved along quickly afterwards. She probably should have been there sooner!

"I like my doctor" is not a reason to stay at your hospital. He or she will very likely not be at your birth. The nurses run the show at the hospital. You want nurses who are used to working with midwives and have a respect and belief in the natural process of birth. If all they ever see is inductions, epidurals, and c-sections, this is what they are comfortable with. Get the heck out of Dodge and run over to the UNT Midwives.

Now, if you decide to birth outside of the hospital, you have lots more options available to you. That's another story for another day!

14 comments:

Jamie said...

Great post, Donna. I love the midwives, and that hospital in general; in addition to the midwives being great, the nurses are supportive and super nice to work with as a doula. They get my vote for where to go if you want a hospital NCB, too!

The Aters said...

....touched, Donna. Truly touched to be included in a post on what TO do. We agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. Even the best hospital birth experience is not without its slings and arrows, but we were truly blessed, especially in having one of the LEAST medically minded midwives out there. Definitely would not suggest trying to have a natural hospital birth without taking Bradley classes & having an excellent doula. Thanks for everything you have done for us.

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Regina said...

I meant to tell you the other day...When I had my appt my midwife said that Michael could 'catch' the baby or I could pull her out and onto my chest. I know we talked about that option with homebirth in class, I just wanted to let you know that it is also available there. How awesome is that?! So far, very happy with everything. We will see...

Anonymous said...

Truth would be nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donna Ryan said...

Are you implying that I am lying?

If you have something to say, say it with a name. I am not in the mood for these games.

B said...

Thank you so much for the recommendation!!

I was going to the other FW midwife office earlier in the year before my miscarriage at 12 weeks in March. I loved the MW's (even though they only let you go 10 days past) but did not like their backup doctor at all. I had a natural mc at home and had a visit the following week with the dr. He was not personable. I questioned him on several things and you could tell he was getting frustrated. I felt like he was talking down to me when he answered my questions. I even called the next day and asked if I could use a different OB at the hospital or find my own, and they said no. I knew I wanted a MW vs an OB but my insurance only covers the two MW offices in FW that deliver at hospitals. I guess I chose wrong.

We are trying to get pregnant again and I just thought I would go back to them and cross my fingers I wouldn't have to encounter the dr again. But when I got pregnant again I will definitely be making a visit to the UNT MW's for a consultation.

Cassie said...

Just found your blog and I am in love!! I wanted to add, I did have a VBAC with the UNT Midwives and here is my take. VERY supportive consult before getting pregnant (c/s was due to placental abruption). Very supportive through 1st and 2nd trimesters. 3rd Trimester appointment with OB was a little vague (I felt like he was not wanting to say anything that I could "hold him to" such as, how far past "due date" will they allow, just kept saying "we always do what is best for mom and baby...") At 39 weeks I had one *slightly* elevated BP measure in the office (I am sure this was due to the concern over what they would say about going "over due" next week since no one would give me an answer about how long they would allow...) and it was immediately "are you sure you don't just want to have this baby today, I can get you in for a c/s this evening.... you have been pregnant a long time." I flatly refused and they set me up with biophysical profiles twice a week. I thankfully had a doula (who is a CPM) who was able to bring me back to a state of calm and faith in birth. I stopped going to the weekly appointments with the midwives, but did go to the bio appointments where it was obvious my baby was still flourishing in there. At 42 weeks on the nose I was in labor and showed up at 7 cm (stayed at home with doula until that point, as per the plan). Once I was there and in labor, the CNMs were very supportive, helping with positions , telling me I could do it and didn't need drugs (I didn't want them), they let me labor in the tub (even though they said I wouldn't be able to since I was VBAC), intermit. monitoring (15 mins every hour) even though I was told it would be continuous. IV fluids, but I was also allowed food and drink by mouth, I was just dehydrated because I had been in and out of labor for three days... There was a point I was offered AROM, but I declined and my water broke within 30 mins anyway. I was given an episiotomy (which I didn't want) because they were thinking about using a Vac, though I don't know why since I only pushed for 4 contrax. before he was born. 9/9 Apgar, immediate skin to skin, delayed cord clamp, delayed vit K and eye oint. It was basically exactly what I asked for.
My opinion- EVERY VBAC mom needs a doula/support system to continually remind her of her goal and her ability to birth. These ladies are wonderful in their field and I would use them again if I decide to have another hospital birth, but regardless of where you birth, you must be willing to take charge of your own birth.

Landrie said...

I just stumbled upon your blog today and was already in love before I realized you were in Tarrant County. Then I found this post and am truly thankful. I left my original OB's office and switched to the UNT Midwives around 22 weeks gestation. SO SO glad I did and this post backs that up entirely. I have always been a little leary of giving birth at a hospital but due to insurance reasons, I have no choice. I have 5 weeks until my estimated due date and am extremely glad to know that the UNT midwives and Harris have such a good reputation for encouraging natural birth. I love the midwives so far and am very excited to have them deliver my baby girl.

Heather said...

Just have to throw in a good word for UNT also. I actually have not delivered with them, but I did get prenatal care there and after meeting Kathleen, was able to see that they would be your best bet if you wanted a natural birth in a hospital. I only decided to go back to my birth center here in Grand Prairie b/c the drive to Fort Worth was far - but if I HAD to go there, I think they would have been great. :)

louzannalady said...

I was pre-registering online right now, for my birth with the midwives and came across this post! : ) It makes me super excited for giving birth anywhere from now to July 23rd- which is 14 days after my "guess date"! : )

barb said...

Thanks for your post, Donna. I am 16 weeks pregnant- with 2 boys born by c-section. I had a very - as you put it "medically minded" nurse midwife with my 1st and ended up with a c/s due to 'transverse head posposition'. I had a wonderful birth educator who was also my doula and we labored at home for 20 hours before I went to the hospital in transition. My second section was elective I think partly bc I was afraid of a repeat of physical and mental pain and anguish- but I also didn't know there were many other options for me in this area. I am now expecting my third and wishing I had looked into options with my second. Are you aware if the midwives do vbacs after multiple c-sections? I just became a member of ICAN and made a consultation spot with dr Cummings- but I have heard that his partners aren't necessarily as comfortable with vbacs as he is. I would also like to deliver a bit closer to home. Any suggestions/ info you have or feel willing to give would be appreciated.

Evelyn said...

This post helped me a lot! I am new to the area and saw UNT Health Certified Nurse-Midwives in a Tarrant County Birth Network guide. I was unsure but then I saw your blog upon researching the midwifery services listed. I am now going to have a consultation with them. Thank you.

WINTER:) said...

HOW DO YOU RECOGNIZE WHICH MIDWIFE IS BEST FOR YOU..WOULD YOU SAY BY ASKING YOUR DR..WHICH HAS THE MOST EXPERIENCE..I HAVE AN APPT WED HERE IM 23 WEEKS WITH MY 1ST SON AND I REALLY WANNA BE IN THE CARE OF SOME1 WHO KNOWS HOW TO RELAX ME AND HELP MY BABY ACURATELY